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Post  Hedgehog on Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:44 am

Was taking a walk at my local wood and saw a large set of holes up the side of the hill. They are quiet big, if I wanted to I could fit my head down one of them with ease. There was large mounds of soil outside the holes, more so than Rabbits. There was not obvious smell, but there was what looked like dog poo in these small holes.

What animal lives in these holes?
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Post  Bethany on Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:50 am

Sounds like Badgers to me, which is bad news for Hedgehogs.

Badger holes are in the shape of a capital D turned on its side (the flat side).

They dig pits outside the sett which they do their droppings in, these are known as 'Dung Pits' or 'Latrines'. The poo inside them looks like dog poo, as you said.

There is usually large mounds outside the holes, which build up after years of using the sett.
They can be found on hill sides.

We have a Badger sett a few villages away. I bet no Hedgehogs live there, for Badgers are the Hedgehogs most natural predator.

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Post  Hedgehog on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:05 am

OK, thank you. I think you are right, I did some web research and it looks as if it might be them.
Bad news for the Hedgehog though.
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Post  Bethany on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:09 am

Yeah, it is bad news for them. Badgers can get the Hedgehog to un-roll, and they will then eat the Hedgehog, leaving the skin etc still in tact, so it looks as though the Hedgehog has been eaten from the inside, if you know what I mean.

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Post  Hedgehog on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:10 am

Yuck! That is horrible. Have you ever seen a Hedgehog like that?

I would not agree with killing the Badgers, but that sounds like one nasty death to me!
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Post  Bethany on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:22 am

No, I have not seen a Hedgehog in that way...yet...

I find all this information out from books I buy, I'm a bit of a book worm Wink Sometimes I do research online, but I often find it is not as accurate.

I would not like to end up dying that way either. The poor Hedgehogs.

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Post  Hedgehog on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:25 am

I don't have that many books. But I have to agree with you, they do contain a lot better information.

I hope I don't see a dead Hedgehog when I go down to the Badger sett thing tomorrow.
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Post  Bethany on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:27 am

The problem is, both Hedgehogs and Badgers sometimes eat the same things. Worms and insects etc, which are found in the same sort of habitat, so Hedgehogs and Badgers often meet each other, and of cause, the Badger might kill the Hedgehog. Badgers do not go looking to kill Hedgehogs, but if they should come across one..... R.I.P

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Post  Hedgehog on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:29 am

Oh, that's bad.

So they are not mindless killers, these Badgers, they don't go looking for blood?
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Post  Bethany on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:32 am

Their main food is the common earth worm, which they mainly forage for. But as said, if they should come across a Hedgehog then they might kill it.

It has been proven that Hedgehogs are now in danger from foxes too, which have a different way from the Badger of killing the Hedgehog. The foxes will bite the Hedgehog's hock joint, on its back leg, and break it.
Not a nice thing to picture.

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Post  Hedgehog on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:33 am

Poor, poor Hedgehog. That is really bad.
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Post  John & Hogs on Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:16 am

Badgers and Hedgehog don't go together. The poor Hedgehog does not stand a chance against the Badger. Sad
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Post  Wildliferescuer on Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:51 am

Badgers killing hedgehogs is not a new happening. It isn't common but badgers do occasionally kill hedgehogs. It is part of nature, badgers have to eat too & although it's not a pleasant way to die it is no different to any other wild animal killing another in order to survive.
There have been a few instances of foxes grabbing a hedgehog by the hind leg, maybe they were hogs with some kind of problem anyway! Again these occurences are very few & far between.
The main animal responsible for the decline of hedgehogs & most other disappearing wildlife is us human beings!!!
Give badgers & foxes a break....they are just trying to survive!!
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Post  Bethany on Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:45 am

Badgers are lovely animals, I went to watch them down at the local sett. And you are right, Wildliferescuer, they do have to survive, which we have to take in to account ourselves. As said before by me, Badgers are not mindless killers, and from lots of research I know that they do not go looking for Hedgehogs to eat, it may just happen occasionally when they come accross a Hedgehogs.

Please look here Wildliferescuer about Foxes killing healthy Hedgehogs:

www.thehedgehog.co.uk/foxes.htm

As an all round wildlife lover, I am not going to shut off the Fox or the Badger because they may kill the Hedgehog. Hedgehogs are by far my most favourite wild animal, and they allways have been, so it is very difficult.

The main big problem to Hedgehogs is humans, careless people who are not aware of the Hedgehogs.

Anyway, that's my opinion.

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